As we pulled in to the parking lot at church this morning I made a prediction. "This should be a lively discussion," I prognosticated for Lexie's benefit. I was not wrong.
I've mentioned before that our Sunday School class (internally known as the Mystics and Cynics) is using a book called Devotional Classics. It features fifty-two selections from various authors almost all of whom are dead guys. This week's reading was taken from the writings of John Calvin. Below are outtakes from the discussion.
We imagined Luther giving Calvin a hard time: "They're mocking you down at Covenant this morning. Dude, if you ever want to ease up a bit, come on over to our side of heaven: We're having a beer bash." The consensus was that the piece was devoid of the Spirit and of grace.
"This is what you get when you take the bible as the literal and final word of God." This is self righteousness and the (un)gospel of works displayed in efficient soulless Switzerland. When work and worship are the only options and are so narrowly defined, art is limited to the likes of Rembrandt.
I referenced Manasclerk's recent post on grace. If you haven't read it, follow that link. Our discussion also reminded me of what I was just reading to Lexie in John Varley's The Golden Globe. In the book, there are planetary computers which monitor and record and, being intelligent, understand every aspect of human life on the planet. The voters have always had a clear enough picture of their own failings that each planet has its own version of a statute that prevents the computer from reporting crimes to the authorities. A certain low level of crime is better than utter fascism.
"This is bourgoise." Notice how Calvin bashes "philosophers" at every opportunity. He might as well have said "intellectuals." He tells the poor to be "patient in their poverty." Everyone should get his "just due." This is the fundamentalism that hurts.
There's nothing wrong with courageous convictions. Virtue's Latin root is closer to "macho" than "saintly." To be virtuous is to be authentically human. Denying our humanity is not virtuous.
Self denial is a factor, but not the whole equation. Just as we cannot simply sin that grace may abound, we cannot judge with a fixed interpretation of a static text. We are responsible for using the brains God gave us. Not simply for regurgitation but for comprehension and integration and compassion and forbearance.
I'm not certain but that we might have to establish a policy similar to Las Vegas for the Cynics and Mystics class..
What goes on there...stays there :)
-M
Posted by: Michael at April 26, 2004 3:28 PMI know that you see the best in Calvinism, and we both know that a gentle approach to it produces goodness and churches that a clearly repositories of The Spirit.
But yes, you got ahold of some cranky, leftish baptists, God help you. They're good people, though.
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Posted by: gordon at April 26, 2004 10:32 PMGreetings from your Calvinist mom! I don't know which stony, unbending Calvinists you guys are discussing, but I have found the bunch I meet with every Sunday to be loving, grace-giving, supportive, prayerful on my behalf, embracing, and eager to help whenever there is a need. Knowing that I was chosen from the foundations of the world produces in me a dumbfounded awe and upwelling gratitude. I know His favor is unmerited. And if ever I have a doubt about that, I just have to think of my sister Esther and her treatment of my mother and I get instantly in touch with my carnality! Mom
Posted by: Susan McJilton at April 27, 2004 8:21 AMThe pastor assumes I took it personally. My mom takes it personally.
I think you were right, Michael.
Posted by: jmmj at April 27, 2004 9:04 AMhey! I got referenced in church! If you didn't take me to Taco Cabana every time I'm in town, I'd be mad.
There's deep discount tickets available to Austin, and I finally got my contract sorted out, so I should be down soon.
Posted by: manasclerk at April 27, 2004 4:42 PMYou should have them read some of the Truly Reformed writers that populate western Michigan. Michael Horton on anything comes quickly to mind -- he can take the enjoyment out of anything. A better Calvinist (closer to Calvin's own faith, I think) is that great Baptist of England, Chuck Spurgeon. You have to let him be from expansionist England and all, but he still says some cool things. He got into a big stink with what we call the Hyper-Calvinists because he preached God's message of forgiveness to all. The Hyper-Calvinists insisted that the Gospel invitation should only be extended to the Elect. Really! This was some internal Baptist debate, I think, although how one was supposed to determine if someone was elected to salvation or not is beyond me; maybe they had one of those detectors from Ghostbuster, reconfigured for a more godly spiritual detection.
Posted by: Forrest at April 27, 2004 4:47 PM