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	<title>Comments on: Why Would John Crowder Fake Tongues? Glossalia and Clerical Control</title>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 20:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, my response is to the last comment about getting scientific evidence.

i have just stumbled across this crowther guy today. I wouldn&#039;t like to comment about if i think his ministry is authentic because I don&#039;t know his history or much else about what is going on other than these videos.

I have been raised in the Roman Catholic church and have always been open to the idea of miracles- there has been rigorous scientific studies on many miracles that happen in Lourdes In France where Mary the mother of Jesus appeared. the Roman Catholic church makes sure it is very rigorous about testing claims of miracles.

i think if there are so many miracles happening they should start getting them checked scientifically. 

all signs and wonders are for God&#039;s glory- to bring his kingdom of love, peace and salvation
Thanks God for giving us brains and good senses and the gift of prayer to discern what is of him- beauty, truth  and goodness</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, my response is to the last comment about getting scientific evidence.</p>
<p>i have just stumbled across this crowther guy today. I wouldn&#8217;t like to comment about if i think his ministry is authentic because I don&#8217;t know his history or much else about what is going on other than these videos.</p>
<p>I have been raised in the Roman Catholic church and have always been open to the idea of miracles- there has been rigorous scientific studies on many miracles that happen in Lourdes In France where Mary the mother of Jesus appeared. the Roman Catholic church makes sure it is very rigorous about testing claims of miracles.</p>
<p>i think if there are so many miracles happening they should start getting them checked scientifically. </p>
<p>all signs and wonders are for God&#8217;s glory- to bring his kingdom of love, peace and salvation<br />
Thanks God for giving us brains and good senses and the gift of prayer to discern what is of him- beauty, truth  and goodness</p>
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		<title>By: bobba44</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobba44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realize that we cannot put God in a box and He can do whatever He wants to do in life...But I know if people were promoting me I would want them to put me in a good light and respect me, and show me as someone you could take seriously. I think the church has lost its reverence for God. I know I would not want to represented by someone who looks like they are either drunk or stoned. I believe God can work miracles and there will be signs and wonders...but not at the cost of making God look like a joke..!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realize that we cannot put God in a box and He can do whatever He wants to do in life&#8230;But I know if people were promoting me I would want them to put me in a good light and respect me, and show me as someone you could take seriously. I think the church has lost its reverence for God. I know I would not want to represented by someone who looks like they are either drunk or stoned. I believe God can work miracles and there will be signs and wonders&#8230;but not at the cost of making God look like a joke..!</p>
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		<title>By: Daun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 22:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty much summed it up there Leviticus.  The younger generation is searching for something more authentic than the denial, for lack of a better word, that those before them seem to live in.  Much of the &quot;church&quot; is relatively dead and they&#039;re so desperate for something real that they&#039;ll grasp at anything that hints the possiblity of life.  A lot of them are too young to have experienced enough pain in their lives to realize that the &quot;signs and wonders&quot; being offered to them lack true depth.  What then when they do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty much summed it up there Leviticus.  The younger generation is searching for something more authentic than the denial, for lack of a better word, that those before them seem to live in.  Much of the &#8220;church&#8221; is relatively dead and they&#8217;re so desperate for something real that they&#8217;ll grasp at anything that hints the possiblity of life.  A lot of them are too young to have experienced enough pain in their lives to realize that the &#8220;signs and wonders&#8221; being offered to them lack true depth.  What then when they do?</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s really scary is that he believes in being in two or more places at the same time.  Isn&#039;t this called being omnipresent.  And isn&#039;t it true that only God can be in more than one place at the same time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s really scary is that he believes in being in two or more places at the same time.  Isn&#8217;t this called being omnipresent.  And isn&#8217;t it true that only God can be in more than one place at the same time?</p>
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		<title>By: LeviticusMaximus</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeviticusMaximus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The word of the day is &quot;Charlatan&quot;. 

It&#039;s a shame that we often reduce the power of our Holy Father, YHWH, His Son, and the Holy Spirit to something that resembles more of a hard alcoholic drink or the feeling of heat and/or an electric shock.... which typically has only a slight chance of permanently healing joints/back pain/headaches/weight loss or whatever superficial healing that is desired.

 When Jesus performed miracles, even his enemies were doubtless that He had healed the sick or given signs! The only thing that they could come up with was that Jesus had to be working through the power of Satan. Where are the withered hands that are being healed by this movement? Where are the mute and the deaf who have received a full restoration? What about the blind or those with cerebral palsy or MS or missing limbs... What about the dead that have been raised from their grave? I hear all kinds of stories about these great miracles, but there is always doubt because the stories are ever-changing. What about the obsession with drug culture and the occult? Levitation? transcendental meditation? OBE&#039;s? Altered states of consciousness through the clearing of one&#039;s mind? Are we so faithless that we require signs and wonders to believe and have faith? 

I&#039;m afraid that its the fake signs and cheap wonders keep us hanging on until the next week&#039;s revival or next month&#039;s refilling of the Holy Spirit.

I can think of dozens of verses that seem to explain how we should respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The word of the day is &#8220;Charlatan&#8221;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that we often reduce the power of our Holy Father, YHWH, His Son, and the Holy Spirit to something that resembles more of a hard alcoholic drink or the feeling of heat and/or an electric shock&#8230;. which typically has only a slight chance of permanently healing joints/back pain/headaches/weight loss or whatever superficial healing that is desired.</p>
<p> When Jesus performed miracles, even his enemies were doubtless that He had healed the sick or given signs! The only thing that they could come up with was that Jesus had to be working through the power of Satan. Where are the withered hands that are being healed by this movement? Where are the mute and the deaf who have received a full restoration? What about the blind or those with cerebral palsy or MS or missing limbs&#8230; What about the dead that have been raised from their grave? I hear all kinds of stories about these great miracles, but there is always doubt because the stories are ever-changing. What about the obsession with drug culture and the occult? Levitation? transcendental meditation? OBE&#8217;s? Altered states of consciousness through the clearing of one&#8217;s mind? Are we so faithless that we require signs and wonders to believe and have faith? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid that its the fake signs and cheap wonders keep us hanging on until the next week&#8217;s revival or next month&#8217;s refilling of the Holy Spirit.</p>
<p>I can think of dozens of verses that seem to explain how we should respond.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Jordan1. I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Jordan1. I</p>
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		<title>By: not a liar</title>
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		<dc:creator>not a liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If those people can really hear without ear holes and see through a glass eye he should get scientists to study these claimed &#039;miracles&#039; . If Christians want to convince non-Christians their religion isn&#039;t a bronze age myth this kind of evidence would be a good place to start. Of course he won&#039;t show off these miracles to our scientists because he&#039;s just another obvious liar for Jesus and he&#039;s not stupid enough to try to fool the scientific community. He&#039;s lying to you people and also making you guys look like gullible fools and making your religion look very dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If those people can really hear without ear holes and see through a glass eye he should get scientists to study these claimed &#8216;miracles&#8217; . If Christians want to convince non-Christians their religion isn&#8217;t a bronze age myth this kind of evidence would be a good place to start. Of course he won&#8217;t show off these miracles to our scientists because he&#8217;s just another obvious liar for Jesus and he&#8217;s not stupid enough to try to fool the scientific community. He&#8217;s lying to you people and also making you guys look like gullible fools and making your religion look very dishonest.</p>
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